Blogging and Money – The Ugly Truth

by Robb Sutton

Ok…both David Risley and Nathan Hangen have weighed in. Here are my .02 sense on blogging and making money online. You got a hint of this with ‘Problogging Is Dead‘ (free download…no opt in…hit it up!) where I showed you what it means to be a blogger that makes their full-time income online. It isn’t as easy as throwing up content and getting subscribers. Real, successful, money making blogs are much more complicated than that and based off of traditional business models that breed success. So…as others are weighing in on the blogging niche and where blogging is as far as generating income online, where do I stand and what do I think?

The Harsh Truth About Making Money Online

Everyone is not capable of making money online. If you are not prepared to own a real business that you are going to be 100% accountable for, you are not ready to make your living full-time online. There is no 2 hour work day. There is no income on autopilot. Anyone who tells you any differently…is trying to sell you something. Bloggers that make 100% of their income online are not bloggers. They are business owners that make money by leveraging blogging to attract clients, customers and consumers of their products, services and advertising.

There are business owners who feel like they only work 2 hours a day, but that is because they love what they do…not because they are actually working 2 hours a day.

A blogger is an individual who likes to get their thoughts out online as a hobby and could care less if they make a single dime. It is for fun and they enjoy doing it. More power to them as they are finding a way to express themselves…but with that attitude about online production, they will never make a full time income online.

I see a lot of bloggers that want to make money online, but they bring the employee mentality to their blogging. If you are going to own your own business, your mind does not shut off at 5pm. You do not have a set schedule you can adhere to.

As a business owner, you have more flexibility with your time but you gain that by taking all of the risk and investment. It does not come for free.

Making money online is exactly like making money in the brick and mortar world…the only difference is the low cost of entry attracts a lot of eager “bloggers” all looking to make it big. So what happens? We get a lot of blogs about blogging written by bloggers whose only blog is their blog about blogging (wow…that sentence got repetitive). The “take the journey with me as I figure out how to make money online by copying someone else’s winning formula and regurgitating it in my own words just to give up before my blog hits its first anniversary because I am not making any money because I have zero f’in clue what I am doing” is worn out and is done every 5 seconds in the blogging world. Did I mention that it fails miserably every time?

Most of the massively successful blogs online you never hear about because they don’t have a blog about blogging. A lot of times, they have a terrible design, a pitiful Alexa ranking and they are killing it with a massive amount of traffic and converting that traffic into income streams.

Here at RobbSutton.com, I try to keep any blogging tips directly sourced from how I have success on Bike198.com. The only reason I even started this site was to answer the multiple questions I was receiving about Bike198.com and product reviews/blogging. With that…I saw a need and I filled it with this site and Ramped Reviews. What I found was that I really like helping bloggers like I help cyclist on Bike198.com. So…I run both sites in my business under that presumption…I help people become better at what they want to be good at (my wife hate’s it when I end a sentence with at). It’s the basic principle of business expansion…

So How Do You Make Money Online?

Like I said before, you have to treat it like a real business and stop thinking like an employee. You have to start thinking of ways that you can generate real income and then attract the readers that will need that resource.

Look…all of the controversial posts and pure opinion stuff is fun. It generates a lot of comments, it creates traffic to your blog, but it also attracts a crowd that is critical and ready to rip your ideas/products apart without even laying eyes on it. If you are trying to make money online, is that the kind of reader you want scouring your pages?

Please do not take this the wrong way, but I do not need cheerleaders telling me how great I am in the comments of my posts…I need bloggers and cyclists that I can help accomplish goals. By helping you achieve your goals and dreams, I am able to achieve mine. Successful businesses help more than they receive. Think of it this way…the more your customer sells, the more they buy from you. If your customers (readers/subscribers/members) are not selling more, your business model is going to dry up quickly.

A lot of people would look at Bike198.com and think…that isn’t a lot of comments…this blog must not make much money. But the truth is that the cycling audience is not big on commenting…they are big on buying a hell of a lot of gear. It’s an obsession, so they **ahem** we scour the web looking for more information on the gear we want. Once we find the information we need…we buy! I know what my audience wants…I deliver what they want (honesty about products and tips on how to become a better rider)…and I make money doing that.

Find a profitable need, find the audience and then provide something that offers real value to that audience. There are many ways to generate this income from physical goods to informational goods to coaching. It is up to you to find out what works and what doesn’t. If your idea does not work, you learn from it and apply that knowledge to the next until you find a winning formula.

Stop beating your head against a wall wondering why your incredible articles are not making you any money. Unless you are a freelance writer, you are never going to make money off of just words. Even then, the freelance writers are making money off of the jobs they pull end due to their blogging and not the blog articles themselves. See the leverage?

I know a lot of this sounds harsh and makes some online entrepreneurs (maybe even me included) seem like they are solely focused on money. That isn’t true…they make money by helping people online. To help people, you have to gain their trust and make that connection, but you have to be making it with a person that is willing to consume what you are offering.

Also, there is ‘only right way’ of making money online through blogging. The only right way is whatever way puts money in your pocket on a consistent basis. You can click from blogging blog to blogging blog listening to the way they want you to do things. Some will say eBooks are dead, some will say Adsense is dead, others will say affiliate marketing is a waste of time…the reality is that you need to find the way that works with your audience and light it up! After that…test new ways and continue to diversify! If someone you are listening to is so close minded that they can only think  of one way of doing things…they are probably not the person to listen to anymore.

You can be a blogger or a business owner…it is your choice and it all starts with your mindset…

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13 comments

Drezz February 12, 2010 - 9:03 am

Agreed 100% – There’s no such thing as ‘get rich quick.’ At least not by honest means.

People need to trust you and the content you provide. But its absolutely important that you provide something of value that people can take away and use to enrich their lives.

If you provide crap, your return will be crap.

Thanks for providing the reality check, Robb. I hope others will figure it out and stop littering the net with failed startups and broken promises because of their laziness.

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Robb Sutton February 12, 2010 - 10:59 am

What you get out is in direct relation to what you put in.

I always sit back and ask myself…if it cost $100,000 to start a blog, what would I be doing differently now?

That normally gets me off my ass pretty quickly.

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Aaron Mielke February 12, 2010 - 10:01 am

I like the congruency with the “A-listers” I’ve been seeing lately, and I use the term A-listers loosely – meaning these guys have a true business model and are using their blogs as a resource for that business.

These articles are fantastic for helping me as I formulate my plans for my newest venture.

I am sure your readers appreciate your honesty and hopefully they have realistic expectations for their businesses and blogs.

…is it riding season yet? 😉

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Robb Sutton February 12, 2010 - 11:00 am

Damn I wish. Atlanta is calling for snow today and our work party was canceled for tomorrow. Back to the gym and the trainer I go.

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TheInfoPreneur February 12, 2010 - 10:17 am

Hey Robb,

Making money with our sites is what us guys are striving for it really is and you guys are paving the way to prove it can actually be done.

My question is a request of help, not just for me but for the other people reading this and thinking, yeah I need to make money ‘but how?’

I guess there are thousands of ‘e’ products out there all doing there thing, but how does someone actually decide what to sell?

It may seem like a really dumb stupid question, but loads of people will be thinking this right now, how do I decide what to sell?

For example how did you decide what to sell for your very first product? Did you ask your readers and do some market research or did you just go for it and hope for the best?

The vast majority of us reading this want to be a business owner like you, but are not sure how to test the market, do you see what I mean?

Hopefully this doesn’t come across as dumb, just a question I think a lot of people will be asking but too afraid to ask and being in this position myself, I need to know!

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Robb Sutton February 12, 2010 - 11:04 am

Doesn’t come across as dumb at all. If more bloggers were thinking along those lines…there would be more successful blogs out there (and competition is not a bad thing).

My first products (ex. Ramped Reviews) stemmed from requests actually. After answering the same email for the 37th time, I decided to make a resource. I did some market research, asked around to my readers and then sat down and made it happen. The biggest thing is taking that action…taking the step forward…and stop talking about it…just do it.

On Bike198.com, I was attracting readers that wanted to become better riders through tips and how-to’s. I did this to set myself up for a product in the future…Ramped Riding (which has been downloaded over 7,000 times). I built up the audience I wanted to help by providing useful information for free, so when I had a product ready…they were ready for it.

That is the nuts and bolts of some of the things I have done online. I’ll try to make some time to make a real post about the process.

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Nathan Hangen February 12, 2010 - 10:56 am

I think about business 24/7. I’ve always got one more thought to put down on paper before I go to bed.

I’m literally obsessed with my business…in a good way.

If I tried to get away with working just a few hours per day, then I wouldn’t be working long or hard enough to make any money. Especially in the beginning, when the learning curve was an issue.

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Robb Sutton February 12, 2010 - 11:05 am

Amen to that. Every have one of those sit straight up at 3 am and rush to the computer moments?!

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Nathan Hangen February 13, 2010 - 7:27 pm

Oh yeah, and my wife hates it lol…I’ve started using Evernote on the iPhone to avoid rushing off to the computer, but sometimes, that isn’t enough 🙂

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Mike CJ February 12, 2010 - 11:00 am

Interestingly you touched on what I think is emerging as the strongest business model – the two blog business.

Darren has DPS, you have Bike198, David has PCMech and I have Lanzarote Information.

It’s amazing how much good material (and solid income) you can gain from having a real blog outside of the blogging niche as a platform from which to learn.

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Robb Sutton February 12, 2010 - 11:06 am

The progression is actually the opposite way. We all had some site outside of the blogging niche that was doing well, so we expand into that niche with a track history to help other bloggers online.

Expanding your offerings in a way that you can still provide value in all directions is the natural progression of business.

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John Paul Aguiar February 12, 2010 - 12:11 pm

I think the bottom line is what your said ” find what your readers want and give it to them” you can make money with Adsense , you can make money with a ebook, you can make money with blogging about blogging. Every “bloggers” traffic and readers ar different.

Find that niche and stick to you iffer your own product or a aff product that fits exactly what your blog is and your readers want and the money will come.

There are a million ways to make money online with or whithout a blog, and they ALL take hard work, hard work each day.

You need traffic, targeted traffic,, and that takes a-money or b-hard work each day to attract.

Either way as a blogger you need to think as a internet marketer and market, and you need to think as a business owner.

The hard work a s a blogger isnt writing the hard work is the back end stuff that grows your blog.

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Aqif February 15, 2010 - 7:28 am

Hey there Robb.

I totally agreed from what u’ve said in this post. There a “a lot” of people who underestimate this make money kinda things.

They always thought that building internet business is easy (Which it is definitely NO is the right answer). Same with me, I also face this situation. But starting 2 years ago, I’ve forced myself (Which now I’m really enjoy) to treat it as a real business.

Btw, I love your words:
“They give more than they take”

To your success Robb. 🙂

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